Tuesday, November 6, 2007

Seneca Falls Convention: "Declaration of Sentiments"

I gave you this document in class Tuesday.

The Seneca Fall Convention is long-hailed as the first organized impetus for women's rights. Does this document ring any bells (it should)? What is the purpose of the Declaration of Sentiments? Choose TWO (2) of their arguments on which to specifically comment.

Due: MIDNIGHT, Wednesday, Nov. 7

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

The document “Declaration of Sentiments” from the Seneca Falls Convention was written for full female equality. The Seneca Falls Convention was called in response to the disruption of the 1840 World Anti Slavery Convention when the convention refused to seat the female delegates. This document was written by the feminists that were present at the Seneca Falls Convention, who all demanded the right to vote. This document reminds me of the Declaration of Independence. I didn’t realize that women would be fighting for voting equality so early in history. This Convention was successful because by 1860 fourteen states had granted the women greater control over their property and wages. One argument that stood out to me was how the women brought up the debatable statement that all “MEN” were created equal. In my opinion I think the forefathers meant mankind just not males. So I agree with the argument that men and women are indeed created equal. The second argument that the feminists brought up was that through out history men have degraded women and they even had proof to support this accusation. Men have never allowed women to exercise their inalienable rights, leaving her with no voice, giving rights to ignorant and degraded native and foreign men that don’t deserve them and the list goes on and on. I agree with almost all except when they try to blame men for their irresponsible actions when you are responsible for your own actions. One question I do have is where did this document go; Congress- printed up and passed out? This is Mackenzie Wilder.

frenchie said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written by engraged feministst that attended the Seneca Falls Convention. They wrote it from a personal point of view, having had experienced the female discrimination, to call for female equality. The women write this document much like the Declaration of Independence by interjecting: "We hold these truths to be self-evident...". They also point out mankind's faults towards women as the Americans had pointed out Britain's faults towards America. Also, they are both declaring a type of independence. The Declaration of Independence delcared American independence from Britain while the
Declaration of Sentiments attempted to declare an independence of women from men. One of the arguments that stood out to me was the one that states that if a female gets married then she is "civilly dead" "in the eye of the law". This argument succesfully conveys how females felt when they got married: "civilly dead", or cut off from all civil priviledges. Another argument that stood out to me explained how men degraded women through "destroy[ing] her confidence in her own powers, lessen[ing] her self-respect, and [made] her willing to lead a dependent and abject life." This argument justifies that women should have been treated more equal to men so that they would not have had to been subject to such cruel behavior. Through this document I have learned that women were treated as children, who could not take responsibility for their lives but had to have somebody else control it for them. One thing I wonder is if this document was widely presented throughout the nation or was it kept within the convention and among feminists?

Alexa said...

The main idea of this document is to state the rights that should be given to the women but are not being given to them. The point of view is of women who have been treated unfairly by men and are tired of it. Women want the rights they are supposed to be guarenteed in our Constitution. These women are not being recognized as equals but instead subordinates to the men and they are boycotting because this is unconstitutional. This document is a lot like the Declaration of Independence because of the list of grievances. This document though is for the men in America, not to the king. As Mackenzie said, I also learned that the fight for the rights of women started a lot earlier in history than I thought. I am confused by what is meant when she says, 'He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead.' The second point is important because it really sums up the main point of the Declaration of Sentiments. It says, 'He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice' and I think it means that men wanted women to submit and follow the laws that were given but women were not recognized in them. Another point I think is important is 'He has taken from her all rights in property and the wages she earns' because in the Constitution is says that our inalienable rights are life, liberty, and property but women were not given these things, instead their property and earnings went straight to the men.

Clemsonguy55 said...

This article entitled "Declaration of Sentiments" was written by women that attended the Seneca Falls Convention. They wrote this so that their voice would be heard and hopefully cause change. This article is a representation of the views of most women during this time period. This sounds very similiar to "The Declaration of Independence".

Points:

1. "He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice."
This is talking about how women were not allowed to vote, but were forced to follow all the laws. This seems unfair to me and I think it is important that women have the right to vote.

2. "He has taken from her all right in property, even to the wages she earns."
This says that any money a woman makes goes directly to her husband. This is not fair at all. If the woman is doing the work she should keep the money.

najeebe said...

The Declaration of Independence inspired the Declaration of Sentiments, written at the Seneca Falls convention. The Convention was sparked by the unjust way women were treated in the abolition issues. They were denied access to a meeting concerning the issue. Women wanted equal treatment in owning property, voting, and other rights. An important issue brought up was “He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice.” This brings up the point of women not being able to vote for the laws or the lawmakers, but they are still required to follow the same laws as men. Another argument I found most important was “He has denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed against her.” This is arguing the fact that women are not given equal opportunities for education. Women, being completely equal to men in every way, should be given the same opportunities in everything aspect of life; whether that be education, voting, or owning property.

taylor said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" essentially states that men have denied women all their rights as United States citizens and it declares that men and women have equal rights. The women of the Seneca Falls Convention wrote the "Declaration of Sentiments" in the framework of the Declaration of Independence to have a greater effect on their audience and raise the standards in the women's rights movement. This document laid the foundation for women's rights movement for the rest of the century.
Two Points:
1. "He has taken from her all right in property, even to the wages she earns."
This was a major point for the women to make because it gave them legal rights to their wages and ownership of their personal belongings.
2. "He has withheld from her rights which are given to the most ignorant and degraded men-both natives and foreigners."
This was another significant idea because women were basically getting screwed over and they wanted to be equal to men. This point solidified the view that women should be given equal rights
because they too are American citizens.

TheBishop said...

You gave away the answer in class, but I would have definitely recognized this as following the outline of the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Sentiments more specifically seems ripped off from the Declaration of the Rights of Women and Citizen drawn up during the French Revolution. The purpose of this one, though, is to draw up numerous parallels between the logic of the American Revolution, and the logic behind the women's cries for equallity with men. She brings up many specific incedents that have belittled women and lowered their staus, giving them cause for much frustration. One of these is their submission to laws which they had no say in creating, laws that allowed the government to profit from their property via taxes when it was convenient. But although such laws were decried as a means to keep women in their place, the delegation at the Seneca Convention also focused on social practices, such as the double standard of morality, where a minor offence by a woman could exceed a major moral offence by a man, as women were said to be, like the blacks, morally inferior and would commit crimes with impunity.

Daniel A. said...

The main message of the document is to convey the idea that women wanted to be treated and respected as equals of men (since they were created equally). The document is being produced from a women's rights meeting, so obviously the bias would be that the writers would want to see that women received equal rights (considereing that the writers were women adn were serve to benefit from an increase in equality). This document is very similar (like Sophie and most everyone else picked up on) to the Declaration of Independence. It's ironic that there weren't any women present at the drafting and signing of the Declaration of Independence and I doubt that there would have been many (if any) men at the drafting of the "Declaration of Sentiments." Other similarities include the claim to "inalienable rights" and the structures of the two documents; they begin by saying what they want (independence or equal rights) and then they go on to list out points as to why they feel that their rights have been violated by expressly directing their blame at an individual (the King of Great Britain or in this particular case, men in general). One note that is particularly interesting (that pretty much everyone else seems to have picked, too) is the one saying "He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice." It reminds me of the colonists' claims to Great Britain with "no taxation without representation." Here women are having to submit themselves to laws and rules that they had no part in drafting or ratifying. Another point: "He has monopolized nearly all the profitable employments..." brings to the forefront the continuing issue of compensation and employment discrimination based on gender. This point also segways into the issue of the treatment and degredation of women. Since women can not provide for themselves and families by meager wages alone, they had to resort to other promiscuous forms of work (namely prositution) in order to support themselves. I learned that even by 1848 women were pretty pissed off at how what little rights they received and I guess I never realized how long women had to fight in America for rights before they finally got them (namely the right to vote). I wasn't really confused about anything.

Anonymous said...

This is Nick Foister

The Declaration of sentiments was written to describe to people that women deserved to have the same rights as men.

Point One: He has taken from her all right in property even to the wages she earns.
This shows that the man takes all of the money his wife makes and keeps it. I think that women should have been allowed to keep their earnings.


Point Two: He has denied her the facilities for obtaining an education all colleges being closed to her. This point is saying that women were not allowed to really get a good education. That was unfair because women should have been allowed to get a complete education

Anonymous said...

Josh Hammond

The Declaration of Sentiments, written using phrases and basic structure of Declaration of Independence, was women complaining about rights dealing with property, marriage and voting. They wanted equality which men weren't going to let them have just yet. One argument I noticed was that women could not then get a "thorough education" and colleges were only open to men. The second point was that women could not even have equality in church and held "a subordinate position" to men.

Anonymous said...

Hi its Jared Alexander.

The main idea of the "Declaration of Sentiments" is that woman have the rights as men and that the Creator gives women "inalienable rights: that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". The point of view comes from the women at the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. Lucretia Mott and Elizabeth Cady Stanton wrote in response to the foundation of the Seneca Falls Convention because of the World Anti-Slavery Convention in London where they were not allowed to sit with men. I read this last in my IB history class. That the "Declaration of Sentiments" wanted the same rights that the founding fathers wanted all Americans to have not just men.
This is the same as the Declartion of Independence but with her, she, and women.
The eighth argument is about man making a woman "morally, an irresponsible being, as she can commit many crimes with impunity". The argument presented here seems as though men have created a woman as an irresponsible person who can't work, clean clothes, or take care of the children.
The thirteenth argument presented that even Church has over been a "subordinate position" for men "claiming Apostolic authority". The argument throws in church because church has a place men can rule over women also claiming that God has granted men power over women no matter what.

gbell said...

The main point of this document was that women should be treated the same as men. Even immigrants received more rights than women. Women are pretty much fed up with the way they are treated and want to be treated the way the Constitution says they can.
1."all men and women are created equal" - this is what the women were arguing about. The women said that they were being treated unfairly in proportion to men.
2."He has withheld from her rights which are given to the most ignorant and degraded men- both natives and foreigners."- This is talking about how the men degraded these men but they still got rights. The women were not given rights even like these scoundrels.

Ms. Batson said...

Geez, those women sure were creative. I mean, wow, I never would have thought of modeling a declaration after the Declaration of Independence! Just plain brilliance right there!! Actually, I prefer to think of it as the women were trying to show irony or something psychological like that instead of just being oh so very creative with their writings. In case you couldn’t tell, I was a little disappointed in the “Declaration of Sentiments.” I mean, if you are pushing for equality, then at least declare your sentiments with something that is unique and not copied off something a bunch of men wrote. Their arguments were good at pointing out the unfairness in the society and the dominant manly manhood. Like, “He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead.” Tres true- women had no rights compared to their husbands. And, even though this isn’t a very big problem (and has nothing to do with the last point I quoted), being called a Mrs. (insert husband’s name here) is just weird. I don’t even know if they did that back then, but I still think it’s creepy and kinda amplifies the point that women are completely under their husbands. And the point that beasted them all: “He has endeavored, in every way that he could, to destroy her confidence in her own powers, to lessen her self-respect, and to make her willing to lead a dependent and abject life.” Domination! I think that sums it all up quite nicely. Now, all the women need to do is get those pretty sashes and start singing and dancing about suffrage. At least, until their husbands come home, when they have to quickly hide the posters and sashes and start humming a better song. (I bet no one has any idea what movie I am referring to- I swear, all my brilliance goes to waste...) Cheerio!! (hint, hint- that was a clue)

Unknown said...

At this point I think it's clear that this is modelled after the Declaration of Independence. This document was made to express the myriad concerns of women, at the Seneca Falls Convention and elsewhere, who don't buy into "separate spheres" and want representation, as the United States did at their birth. I would like to comment on the complaints about the monopoly of profitable employments and education. These two seem to sort of be overkill on the same basic issue, to keep women away from competing with men for jobs. Firstly, the jobs are reserved for men, and secondly, women can't get the education to do the jobs anyway, so they wouldn't be accepted even if the job was available to them. You'd almost have to wait a generation after gender equality would be allowed before women could catch up in education anyway. This lack of education would make the women seem less smart, and encourage discrimination all over again.

Jenna Vee said...

This document, "The Declaration of Sentiments" from the Seneca Falls Convention was written in response to the 1840's World Anti Slavery Convention. The document primarily references to the Declaration of Independance except that it is written for the female population specifically. The point of view is obviously pretty pissed off feminists and they were demanding for equality over the sexes. I agree with what Mackenzie said in that when our forefathers stated that all men were created equally, then if a person is a United States Citizen then they deserve the right to be equal all the way the around, and that includes women. Women were also devistated by job opportunities, voting rights, and all around an inferior sex. With job opportunities the wages were no sufficient and a lot of women resorted to more degrading jobs, where the men of the U.S. are blamed, "He has withheld from her rights which are given to the most ignorant and degraded men--both native and foreigners." Another Argument that hits close to home is the idea that women are "morally, an irresponsible being," and that her husband is her "master" and the law gives him power to deprive her of her liberty. If a woman is a United States citizen then she deserves every right that the Declaration of Independance grants her. As well as the Constitution. I think it is degrading in the name of women to be treated almost as property or slaves and or even animals in this case.
WOMAN POWER!

Tina said...

Writers: Elizabeth Cady Stanton & Lucretia Mott
POV/Purpose: advocators of women's rights; women with a vested interest in the subject, and rightly so. The purpose is to declare a list of complaints against men and announce their campaign to make these grievences widespread.
Main idea: women have too long been repressed by the Y-chromosome-carrying gender and are now planning to seek equality. Men suck. Women ought to have "immediate admission to all rights and privileges which belong to them as citizens of the US."
Doc reminds me of: The Handmaid's Tale , Declaration of Independence.
Points:
1. This is about how the men refuse to give women equal right to education. I don't like this. I think everyone ought to have the right to a good education. Armed with the weapons of knowledge, one can slay squalor
2. This is about how the men destroy women's self-confidence and force them to be dependent and whatnot. Well, Mott and Stanton aren't going to stand for this, are they?? They are speaking out!!! No weakness here.
I learned that men were kind of jerks back then.
I disagree with Daniel Aston, I don't think that all women had to resort to prostitution in order to support their families. There were some lousy factory jobs that they could work, too.

Anonymous said...

Brian Jones
Women wrote this document based on the structure of the Decleration of Inedpendence to express their feelings about being viewed as inferior and subject to man. Women weren't allowed to vote even though they are natives to this country. Immigrants who migrated to America got more rights than womem. They said all throughout history man has inflicted his power over them treating them like servants or slaves. Another point I chose was their push for education and entrances to colleges and schools. Women weren't allowed to go to college at this time. They said man viewed an educated women as a threat to them so they prevented them from getting a good education. This document was fairly successful because many states granted women more power over fianances and land.

alice said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written based on the "Declaration of Independence." It was written at the Seneca Falls Convention, and was composed for full female equality. The women composed this declaration because they wanted the right to vote, along with other rights men have that women did not. The women wrote it from their personal point of view, having to deal with the inequality.
One point that interested me was the one that said "He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead." Females knew they were going to stop having any sort of priviledges after being married, they were basically giving up their lives. A second point that interested me was that men have degraded women and they had support to prove it. Women were never allowed to take part in their individual rights.
Another point that interested me was "He has denied her the facilities for optaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed against her." I think men were afraid women would become smarter than them...(sometimes i think they still fear that..haha)...
Did this document stay within the feminist groups or was it passed out??

Anonymous said...

it's blair!

The document, "Declaration of Sentiments" from the Seneca Falls Convention was written by the women for the women. It's just like the Declaration of Independence but instead women added he/SHE in it. Women believed they should get treated just like the men and I definately agree that we do. :)The women at this Convention saw that they were sort of getting the same rights as slaves, so they rallied to get a voice/rights in society. One point made at the Convention was "He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice." probably makes the most sense to me. It's saying that women are expected to follow the rules but yet they have no say in them. I mean hello? That is definately not "all men and women are created equal." Another point made at the convention was, "He has withheld from her rights which are given to the most ignorant and degraded men-both natives." I don't like the fact that they called degraded people ignorant..but women are citizens of America just like men and should be treated with the same respect. But instead they thought they were getting treated like forignors. This article makes me realize how thankful i am for these people who stood up for women's rights.

Taylor Bowling said...

The main idea of the "Declaration of Sentiments" is to state the rights that women should have, but don't. The point of view is that women should be treated equally as men, that all their rights should be the same. This came as a result of the Seneca Falls Convention which started because of women being refused the right to have a voice or a seat at the Anti Slavery meetings of 1840. As you told us today in class, Mrs. Stone, this document should be similar to us...Declaration of Independence...DUH!

The points that stood out to me most were:

"He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead."

I guess this means that if a woman was married at the time, she gave up all her rights to her husband. Rights such as that to land she may have inherited because as we've learned, once a woman got married, she turned all of her property over to her husband.

"He has denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed against her."

This one really caught my eye. It kind of strikes a nerve. It really irritates me that women weren't entitled to an education back then. Women, then, in some cases, were much more intelligent than men(not trying to sound all feminist there or anything, but in my opinion, women are just as smart as men.) Education is the greatest gift any human can recieve and now, it's our choice whether or not we use it, but back then, women weren't even given that choice and something about that truly bothers me.

Anonymous said...

The “Declaration of Sentiments” was written by the women attending the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. These women write from the point of view of actually having experienced the lack of rights for women. This document was strongly influenced by the Declaration of Independence, only instead of speaking of being withheld rights from Britain, these rights are withheld by American men.
Points of Interest:
1) He has never permitted her to exercise her inalienable rights to the elective franchise. Basically, women have no political voice. They cannot vote, even though they are citizens just as well.
2) He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice. This is obviously unfair because although women were not allowed to choose political candidates, they were expected to obey the laws these candidates enforced.
This document really stood out to me because I despise sexists. Women can do anything men can do, if given the oppurtunity. So cheers to the women who wrote this, well done ladies.

Anonymous said...

Hey Mrs. Stone this is Brian Thompson.

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written by the feminists who attended the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. It was written in hopes that men would begin to recognise women's rights and equality. The document was structured similer to the "Declaration of Independance" and I thought it was instilled with a strong since of irony. What I don't understand is why women waited so long to began pushing for equal rights. The femenists main argument is thier wanting full women suffrage. They stated how they are forced to abide by laws that they had no representation in whatsoever. Another of thier arguments was the fact that once married the women's husband all but owned her and her property, and she was very limited in divorcing. One thing I wonder is what the response from most men were and if the women were accused of treasonous conspiricy.

rachel lee said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written at the Senaca Falls Convention by a bunch of angry women who were pushing for the equality of women in society. The convention was held as a result of the World Anti Slavery Convention, because the convention refused to seat women delegates. This document was written from a personal point of view since these women had experienced the discrimination in society. They knew exactly what they were talking about since they had gone through it. This document definately reminds me of the Declaration of Independence. Considering the writers of this document used some of the same wording as the Declaration of Independence, the connection between the two wasn't so hard to find. Both documents, like Sophie said, are trying to achieve a type of Independence. The Declaration of Independence declared independence from Britain the Declaration of Sentiments declared independence of women from men. An argument that stood out was that if a woman gets married then they were considered to be dead in society. Women felt that once they got married, all their civil liberties were cut off and taken away from them. I completely agree with that argument, because once a woman was married during that time she didn't stand for anything in society except a wife and mother. Another argument that stood out was that men have never allowed woment to exercise their rights. A woman had no voice in society, yet ignorant native and foreign men were given rights that they were undeserving of. This argument is a very good one as well that I agree with. Mostly everything they women stated was fact and the complete truth. The only question I have is who actually got this document? Who was it given to and all?

Anonymous said...

The magnificant Warren Johnson

This document, the "Declaration of Sentiments" was written by the women asking for full equality as men. It was written in the style of the Declaration of Independence to show how strongly they felt that they were being oppressed and they figured what better document to use to get the mens attention.

1)"He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice." This is the women saying that they are upset that they have to obide by all the laws and regulations set by men but they have no voice. (very similiar to the colonists being upset by the taxation of the king. "no taxation without representation")

2) "all men and women are created equal" this is the women basically reminding the men of how they felt when they were oppressed by the king and how all they wanted was their own freedoms. Many women didnt just want to be a housewife but to be able to do all the things that the men were allowed to.

Michael said...

yes this does ring some bells we are not all stupid. yeah pretty much this document tells the truth about how women have been misstreated in the world and gives some pretty good examples of these. the writers point out that women are not allowed to vote yet they must obey laws passed by elected repersentives, thats not very fair. they also point out that womens property is only legaly recognized when the goverment is able to tax it and therfore make a profit. yeah, thats really not fair. Elizabeth needs to come down a bit on her writing. i do belive 11/9 was the date that netscape went public as well. i have no idea what im doing right now. wow. this is crazy. you can't catch the dragon!!!!!!

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Anonymous said...

Hey its jake from 4th

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written to try to achieve female equality. It seems to me that this document started off being written like the Declaration of Independence. This was really a strong gesture by the women in this assembly that they wanted equal rights strongly and that they were being suppressed and deprived of those rights at the time. A couple of their strong arguments were, one that men had given the two sexes a different code of morals and that there were false public sentiments. Another was that they couldn't get as good an education and were denied the ability to go to college, which in my opinion is huge because how could they ever achieve equaltiy without equal education.

the kayla nguyen laser show said...

This document, drafted at the Seneca Falls Convention, is a declaration formed by women calling out for equal rights. They called for representation on laws that apply them, indirectly calling for the right to vote, and had several other complaints. One argument that they had that jumped out to me, is the one stating, in simpler terms, that man has used his 'powers' to make women feel inferior, making her lead a dependent life. This seemed odd to me, which I figured was because this was a different era. Nowadays, it would be easier, I suppose, for a woman to find a way out of a situation like this, but then, not so much. These women sure had moxie to be able to draft this document and say all of this outright, if they were so oppressed by their male counterparts. The second point that most readily stood out was the following: " He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice." This has many similarities to what was written in the Declaration of Independence, "No Taxation without representation:. Someone said this in another comment, and kudos for them for saying it. I don't want to read through again to find it, though. And speaking of the ol' Declaration of Independence, this document shares a lot of similarities, including, but not limited to it's name, and several phrases/sentences that are pretty much just rip-offs of the DoI. Nothing was really confusing, and I don't have any questions...

**Amanda** said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" is a direct re-write of the Declaration of Independence. Except written to describe not the grievances of colonies against a tyrannical king, but the grievances of women against tyrannical men. The purposes of this document are to state why the women deserve these rights and their reasons for wanting them. These women believe that if a foreigner has the position to vote then she should too, especially if she is a natural born citizen of the United States of America. Also that if they are created equal then they should have the same powers and rights that the men of their society do. They women feel degraded because they are treated with so little respect in the fact that after they are married that they are really forgotten in society, as well as the fact that they don't have any right to the wages that they work their tails off for or any inheritance whatsoever because it automatically goes to their husband or father. I agree with Mackenzie in the fact that although this was a very radical act, it worked because 14 states did give women more control of their own money.

Anonymous said...

This is Andrew Lewis's post

The "Declaration of Sentiments" basically comes out and states that women and men should have equal rights. This document from the Seneca Falls Convention blamed the men for taking all of the womens rights away from them. This document written by the women was modeled after the Declaration of Independence. This ended up setting the foundation for women's rights movements.
Two Points that stuck out were
1 This one allowed women to have their possessions and also it targeted the men for taking those possessions away from them.
2. The other that stood out was the one that said the "he made her submissive to laws to the point where she had no rights." this one shows how angry the women were and how they felt that Men took away their rights to the point where they didn't feel important anymore.

Harris Jones said...

As women started to more openly fight for equal rights in the mid 1800s, Stanton and Mott banned together and called the first organized convention for women's right, the Seneca Falls Convention. There, they wrote the "Declaration of Sentiments", which in actuality is the Declartation of Independence with a few word changes, such as "men" for "men and women" or "he" to "he or she"... which is just to show the nation that women should have equal rights along with the men...

TWO ARGUMENTS:


1- i love the argument #7... where they say that men have supressed women to the point that they have become the women's masters....which in a way could be comparing themselves to slaves imprisoned on a plantation... could be a way to show the white men that they are treating the white women as "inferior" slaves...
which they know that could push the stubborn beliefs of men towards women's rights... whether abolitionists or not..

2-and i am really surprised by the #12.. where they describe the restrictions put upon them... not only in State but Church, also... which i did not realize was another argument that they were presenting..
i had no idea that they were also fighting for rights within the church...
so i learned something new, eh?

Anonymous said...

This document was written by women who were outraged about the inequality between men and women. It was written in order to gain more rights for womens and overall, equality among everyone. The document is much like the Declaration of Independance and I beleive it was also modeled after the Declaration of Women's Rights (?). The point of view is firsthand because the women who started the Seneca Falls Convention and wrote the Declaration of Sentiments were feminists who were trying get abolition, but were turned away because of their gender, so they knew exactly what they were talking about. One of the points they argue about is the right to own property and their right to their wages. I think it is completely ridiculous to not allow the person who earned the money not to have a right to it, it is like stealing. They also argue that women should be allowed access to colleges and high education. This is important to me because without these early feminists I could've not been allowed to go to college which is necessary in order to be successful.

This is Hannah Mauldin!

t-dawg said...

I’m a slacker I know…but anyways, The Declaration of Sentiments (strongly influenced by the Declaration of Independence) was a document that strongly fights for women’s rights. (Hey that rhymes!) The women realized that they had practically no rights so changed the Declaration of Independence by adding “she” everywhere it had “he”. The first point of discussion is “He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead.” This jumped out because the women viewed themselves as worthless with the right they actually did have at this time. It makes it sound like women have no use in the world and I find that very harsh and severe. The second one that stood out was “He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice.” This is obviously saying that women had no say in the government and laws that were made; therefore they had nobody to represent them and their views. They obviously want a voice in the government because of how crappy their lives are without any representation.

zack said...

This is document is named Declaration of Sentiments written by feminist. This is written from the point of view of crazy women. The main idea is to tell men that they haved denied women the rights they have as american citizens. This document sounds like the declaration of independace. I learned that the fight for womens rights started a whole lot earlier than i thought.

points

"He has taken from her all right in property, even to the wages she earns."
If they earn money they should be the first entitled to it, not their husbands. If they have money to buy property or inherit it, the property should be theirs.

and also like michael
He has compelled her to submit to laws, in the formation of which she had no voice. The men never wanted to submit to laws they had no vioce in so they should understand this.

zack said...

p.s.
sorry it was late

Faith said...

Yeah this document was like definitely modeled after the declaration of independence. The Seneca Fall Convention was kinda like the 2nd continental congress if you think about it. Women felt like their rights were being violated because of the whole abolishment of slavery thing. They felt like their opinion should count just as much as a man's. I think the really important part of this document is the changed words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and WOMEN are created equal" It really shows what this document stands for. Why should women be deprived of the rights that men have? They have worked just as hard and are willing to work even harder to get the same rights.
Points:
1. He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead.
-this is a really important one because women lost their rights to their property as soon as they got married. I mean in their eyes it was probally better not to get married.

2. He has denied her the faciliities for obtaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed to her.
-This was a big thing. Women could not legally get the same education as men. And the men had no legitimate explaination for this.

Anonymous said...

Liz Godiwn....

The document "declatation of Setiments" is about how women feel that they are not being treated equal as the men in society. They say their rights as a citizen are being taken away. This document is similar to the Declaration of Independence. Pretty much all the women did was rewrite the the declaration of independence and make it include women. There are two points that can be seen:

Point 1:
It says that women should "submit to law.." and not vote. I think it is unfair that she cannot vote because they work just as hard as the men and should help make decisions in goverment.

Point 2:
It says "..all colleges being closed against her." This makes it seem that men dont want women to receive an education for fear that they might become smarter than men.

donna lynn said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" was written at the Seneca Falls Convention after the refusal to let women attend the World Anti-Slavery convention. The Declaration was written by the women becuase they wanted equality. The women were tired of feeling subordinate to men and of being denied rights just because of their gender. The document sounds a lot like the declaration of independence. Obviously, the bias is from the women who wrote the declaration becuase they were tired of being treated unfairly.
The Declaration says of how the women have had to submit to laws of which she has had no voice and how if married, women are civilly dead. Those two points stand out the most becuase it really shows how mad they women were about having to do everything the men said and then losing all money and property once they were married. That would really suck. I think it's just kinda wierd how many people began fighting for slave rights before fighting for right of the poeple of thier own race. Youd think that people would like to be united and equal.

Emily said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" written from the women who gathered at the Seneca Falls Convention, states their grievances towards men. The whole document sounds almost exactly like the Declaration of Independence. The authors chose to copy this document because they are trying to get the point across that they deserve freedom and independance just as much as the men who fought in the Revolutionary War. One point that seemed really strong to me was "he has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead". This really stood out to me because the author is comparing marriage and death. The other argument that really appealed to me was the one that said "he has denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed against her".

Emily said...

The "Declaration of Sentiments" written from the women who gathered at the Seneca Falls Convention, states their grievances towards men. The whole document sounds almost exactly like the Declaration of Independence. The authors chose to copy this document because they are trying to get the point across that they deserve freedom and independance just as much as the men who fought in the Revolutionary War. One point that seemed really strong to me was "he has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead". This really stood out to me because the author is comparing marriage and death. The other argument that really appealed to me was the one that said "he has denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education, all colleges being closed against her".